Comments on: YouTube, Fansubs, and a Conflict of Copyright http://doalchemy.org/2009/02/youtube-fansubs-and-the-issue-of-fair-copyright/ Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:44:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: How To Download Vide http://doalchemy.org/2009/02/youtube-fansubs-and-the-issue-of-fair-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-5320 How To Download Vide Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:26:50 +0000 http://alexleavitt.com/?p=205#comment-5320 I’ve been looking at downloading videos from YouTube, it seems that YouTube and many other social network sites have changed their code in order to prevent certain sites from allowing you to download video content from them; most annoying, is there a foolproof alternative? Anyway, excellent blog post, I found it very insightful. I’ve been looking at downloading videos from YouTube, it seems that YouTube and many other social network sites have changed their code in order to prevent certain sites from allowing you to download video content from them; most annoying, is there a foolproof alternative? Anyway, excellent blog post, I found it very insightful.

]]> By: Alex http://doalchemy.org/2009/02/youtube-fansubs-and-the-issue-of-fair-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-3386 Alex Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:01:28 +0000 http://alexleavitt.com/?p=205#comment-3386 While "translation is not illegal," the creator/author/producer owns the rights to all translation, even given international copyright pacts. Therefore, even though a fan translates an anime episode and uploads it to YouTube, it's still illegal: not just because the copyright claim on the original animation overwrites any copyright claim on the fan translation (which might not even hold up in court, since it's overlaid on the original foreign media), but because a fan technically doesn't have the right to translate in the first place. If you want to look at some research, see: Sean Leonard. Progress Against the Law: Fan Distribution, Copyright, and the Explosive Growth of Japanese Animation. 2004. (here: http://mit.edu/seantek/www/papers/progress-columns.pdf) While “translation is not illegal,” the creator/author/producer owns the rights to all translation, even given international copyright pacts. Therefore, even though a fan translates an anime episode and uploads it to YouTube, it’s still illegal: not just because the copyright claim on the original animation overwrites any copyright claim on the fan translation (which might not even hold up in court, since it’s overlaid on the original foreign media), but because a fan technically doesn’t have the right to translate in the first place. If you want to look at some research, see: Sean Leonard. Progress Against the Law: Fan Distribution, Copyright, and the Explosive Growth of Japanese Animation. 2004. (here: http://mit.edu/seantek/www/papers/progress-columns.pdf)

]]> By: Sarbu Noemi http://doalchemy.org/2009/02/youtube-fansubs-and-the-issue-of-fair-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-3383 Sarbu Noemi Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:37:47 +0000 http://alexleavitt.com/?p=205#comment-3383 The owner of the anime the creator of it,not translator.To translate is really hard,fan are translating for fans,not for TV.The real translators can translate it for TV.Fans are studying and learning a foreign language to progress and to make a new self from them.It's not a crime to translate.You can buy the DVD with all the episodes of the anime,but that's your own already because you bought it.But,in certain placs on the Earth can't be found anime DVDs so they download them from Mininova,Megaupload,Rapidshare etc. The fact is,every fan that wants to translate a part or the whole episode need to mention the original creator of it,of course. And if she/he translate it,YouTube can't delete it because it's her'his own translation,not anime.Do you understand? And there is another observation about these problems.Many anime fans are uploading anime episodes on YouTube.Why?Because they want to share a great anime,to be watchen from the whole anime fans.That's why.This is no illegal.The original author's name is on the anime.The fan can't delete it.If YouTube can proove one single time when a fan deleted the author's name and claims it as himself,that illegal! The owner of the anime the creator of it,not translator.To translate is really hard,fan are translating for fans,not for TV.The real translators can translate it for TV.Fans are studying and learning a foreign language to progress and to make a new self from them.It’s not a crime to translate.You can buy the DVD with all the episodes of the anime,but that’s your own already because you bought it.But,in certain placs on the Earth can’t be found anime DVDs so they download them from Mininova,Megaupload,Rapidshare etc.
The fact is,every fan that wants to translate a part or the whole episode need to mention the original creator of it,of course.
And if she/he translate it,YouTube can’t delete it because it’s her’his own translation,not anime.Do you understand?
And there is another observation about these problems.Many anime fans are uploading anime episodes on YouTube.Why?Because they want to share a great anime,to be watchen from the whole anime fans.That’s why.This is no illegal.The original author’s name is on the anime.The fan can’t delete it.If YouTube can proove one single time when a fan deleted the author’s name and claims it as himself,that illegal!

]]> By: omo http://doalchemy.org/2009/02/youtube-fansubs-and-the-issue-of-fair-copyright/comment-page-1/#comment-187 omo Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:26:38 +0000 http://alexleavitt.com/?p=205#comment-187 Interesting article. Good summary of this little legal wrinkle. Just to add to the discussion: 1. I'm not sure if there is an easily accessible source of law on use and rights of owners of derivative works, but that's one place where you might start this discussion. Maybe look it up in a legal text book, or ask an attorney. I can give you my 2c but it's just my 2c :) 2. Japanese companies are already using content ID systems for takedowns on Youtube and elsewhere. It's not pervasive when it comes to anime, but it happens a lot more often for TV shows and music videos and stuff like that. Nicovideo is more aggressive with this. Interesting article. Good summary of this little legal wrinkle.

Just to add to the discussion:
1. I’m not sure if there is an easily accessible source of law on use and rights of owners of derivative works, but that’s one place where you might start this discussion. Maybe look it up in a legal text book, or ask an attorney. I can give you my 2c but it’s just my 2c :)

2. Japanese companies are already using content ID systems for takedowns on Youtube and elsewhere. It’s not pervasive when it comes to anime, but it happens a lot more often for TV shows and music videos and stuff like that. Nicovideo is more aggressive with this.

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